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Offline bedford wife

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« on: August 22, 2012, 11:29:16 PM »
Something was brought to my attention the other day and it hit me between they eyes. Bedford is going downhill fast.  We could blame the township but the blame really lies with each of us.  In the short time I have been here, we have a 3 more "internet cafes" and they aren't the places that serve coffee, we have a new (reopened?) bar, a pawnshop (we buy gold), and a headshop.  I really think we need to redo most of our zoning because all we are missing....and I am sure it's coming....is a topless dance club.  Driving the other day I noticed that it is starting to look an awful lot like the area outside any military base....those of you who were military will note that isn't a good thing.  I say the blame lies within all of use because these businesses need customers and I am sure saw this community as a cash cow.....The only resturants that have opened have been a few "Asian" ones (trust me that food isn't authentic).  In a few years....we won't be so different from the bad part of Detroit avenue unless we do something...and I don't know how we could fight this.  Our drug problem is out of control, kids and young adults are shooting up heroin in the motels on Telegraph.....we don't have enough police to fight it.  The criminal and low class element know we are understaffed with law enforcement and are taking advantage of it.  I don't accept "move if you don't like it" as an option....do any of you have ideas?


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Re: Bedford
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 10:35:36 AM »
Yes, elect Greg Stewart who has experience in attracting investment and development dollars. He has years of management experience behind him. Bedford is a large community that cannot be properly run by an inexperienced politician. In my opinion that is why we are where we are today. Attracting business and tax dollars and keeping the companies that we have should be a proactive challenge not a reactive challenge. Walt would take credit for investment or openings after the news was dropped in his lap. We need someone that will spend their time in office being proactive rather than reactive.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 12:31:38 PM »
Kantup5.  Just curious as to what kinds of businesses you want to see here.  Some don't want Walmart or Meijers, but want to be able to buy shoes locally.  People that post here are complaining about the Kroger Plaza so where do YOU want businesses to locate???  Am surprised with all the complaints that nobody has mentioned the eye sore that used to be Buddy's at the corner of Secor and Sterns.  Am not anti-business but just confused about the sorts of things people would like to see here.  I buy in Bedford when I can and support local businesses here when I need repairs etc.  We moved here 34 years ago to get away from the Toledo rat race. (yes, we didn't like it so we moved!)  I know that is why a lot of people moved here.  Our children graduated from Bedford Schools and went to MCCC Whitman center and got 2yr degrees  (one went on for a 4yr.)  We really do have a lot of positives here in Bedford, so I guess I see the glass as half full, not half empty.

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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 01:53:10 PM »
The real issue is that the township is urbanizing. When I was a little kid in the 60's there may have been about 5-10,000 people. South County sewer came in the 70's and by the 80's the population jumps to 20K. Irrational exuberance of the 80's and 90's gets you up to 30K.

The master plans that the township paid for over the year's were outdated by the time the ink was dry, because they were poorly written to make a fast buck, used poor assumptions and had no consideration for infrastructure. The four-laning of Lewis Avenue in the 70's should have been duplicated on Secor Road years ago (although with a grassed median instead of those stupid suicide turn lanes), with a loop using Dean Road - ideal for distributing traffic between main activity nodes.

The internet cafes, tattoo and pawnshops and bars are merely a sign of the times, but also a sign that if the community standards aren't raised, Bedford becomes a first ring suburb of Toledo, a'la downriver Detroit. That's why in another post I alluded to the fact that BT needs to municipalize or become a charter township or even a city.  A typical Michigan township like BT currently is does not have the power or authority to master it's own destiny from a point of governance. Right now, your merely a conduit for collecting taxes for the school board (another unfortunate dysfunction), and trying to provide services with no cash and reliance on the county for some services by fiat. Meanwhile, things are still controlled by people who ran the joint in the 60's and 70's. They don't want to let go and they have no community vision.

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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 04:51:50 PM »
Something was brought to my attention the other day and it hit me between they eyes. Bedford is going downhill fast.  We could blame the township but the blame really lies with each of us.  In the short time I have been here, we have a 3 more "internet cafes" and they aren't the places that serve coffee, we have a new (reopened?) bar, a pawnshop (we buy gold), and a headshop.  I really think we need to redo most of our zoning because all we are missing....and I am sure it's coming....is a topless dance club.  Driving the other day I noticed that it is starting to look an awful lot like the area outside any military base....those of you who were military will note that isn't a good thing.  I say the blame lies within all of use because these businesses need customers and I am sure saw this community as a cash cow.....The only resturants that have opened have been a few "Asian" ones (trust me that food isn't authentic).  In a few years....we won't be so different from the bad part of Detroit avenue unless we do something...and I don't know how we could fight this.  Our drug problem is out of control, kids and young adults are shooting up heroin in the motels on Telegraph.....we don't have enough police to fight it.  The criminal and low class element know we are understaffed with law enforcement and are taking advantage of it.  I don't accept "move if you don't like it" as an option....do any of you have ideas?

Wow, did you really put this in print?   I just responded to "Pink Lady" in another forum.  Thank you for validating my point to her.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 07:25:09 PM »
Hondo...I may not have communicated very effectively.  I am not tearing Bedford down....I live here and am invested in it's success.  By the same token, we do need, as a community, to decide what we want the "tone" of the town to be WHILE being respectful of the rights of others.  I don't believe that this is an "elite" community, the average income is 45,000, having said that, there isn't any reason we can't put forth a diligent effort to keep our town a good place to live, as safe as we can make it, and keep out those businesses that prey on people who are in tough circumstances.  Pawn shops, internet gambeling facilities, head shops aren't in business to help people....they, IMHO, are no different then the payday loan places that rip off people in true need while gouging them as much as they can, there isn't anything altruistic about them.  We want families to keep our schools open and thriving, we want our older population to feel safe walking around, I would imagine you want the same thing.  Hopefully you will take a minute to think about what I wrote....what direction do you see us heading in and do you care?  If you care, what would you be willing to do?

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 01:04:43 AM »
   I have said it elsewhere, and I will say it again here - we need
to be more than just a township. Bedford has very little control
of its own fate. We can't even change the speed limits on our
roads, or put up new stop signs without the permission of
someone in Monroe. We do not have control of the zoning here.
We have no say in the allocation of infrastructure repair or
even law enforcement. We pay extra for extra deputies to work
here, but the county is under no obligation to maintain the
current staffing levels at our substation, or even to guarantee
that it will stay open. I am not even sure that we can have a
troublesome deputy transferred out of here and be replaced
with someone else. I am reasonably sure that we get the same
attention from the MCRC as the other townships - the problem
being that we have three times as many people living here than
most of the other townships (and that means three times as many
cars and trucks, not to mention the through traffic on Lewis and
Secor to and from Ohio).
     No one has posted any message in this whole forum approving
of the quality or quantity of services we receive ffrom Monroe. The
solution is plain - change our form of local government to give
ourselves more power and control of our affairs.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 10:37:07 AM »
Why don't we get more from Monroe?  I look at our road and theirs and ours seem twice as bad.  It affects how we are able to develope, who wants to start up a business in a place people are going to trash their suspension driving to.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 11:59:38 AM »
Once again we can all dream of what it would be like to be the city of New Bedford.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 11:42:30 AM »
I'm more concerned about the two trashy trailer parks (Summerfield Rd. & Smith Rd) and all the crime and drugs at the sleezy motels on Telegraph. Those are the "businesses" we need to get shut down. Then locate a WalMart at Lewis & Sterns and a Meijer at Smith & Secor and this township will take off in terms of revenue and local jobs. Once you have the supporting business in place then if you want to become a city you have an employment base to collect income tax from.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 02:43:43 PM »
I agree that if we want to be a city we need places like the 2 you mentioned.  Things will be hopping for the next 10 years.  I think it is split now as to how many want a big city and how many want it to be more quite.  I left the big city because I didn't like it.  It will be easier to leave Bedford too if it becomes citified.

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 07:33:14 PM »
I'm more concerned about the two trashy trailer parks (Summerfield Rd. & Smith Rd) and all the crime and drugs at the sleezy motels on Telegraph. Those are the "businesses" we need to get shut down. Then locate a WalMart at Lewis & Sterns and a Meijer at Smith & Secor and this township will take off in terms of revenue and local jobs. Once you have the supporting business in place then if you want to become a city you have an employment base to collect income tax from.


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Re: Bedford
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2012, 04:09:54 PM »
As someone planning to move his family here someday from suburban Detroit so we can be closer to my wife's work in Toledo, I really have to say reading this forum makes we wonder if it is such a good idea.  Is it really as bad as you are saying it is?  You might be scaring away decent people with all this negative commentary.  I don't know much about Bedford living 30 miles away, but it seems really nice driving though.  That being said, we'd like to move to an up and coming town, not one on the decline.  Thoughts?

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2012, 08:58:51 PM »
You need to judge for yourself.  Just because there are negative things posted here, doesn't make them any more than someone's opinion.  I have lived here for 34 years and raised a family and worked in this community.  For what it is worth, I like it here!  I don't think we have any more problems than most communities.  That is just my opinion.

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Re: Bedford
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2012, 09:00:41 PM »
It depends upon what you are looking  for.  If you want the big city with lots of shopping and the traffic that goes with it Bedford is not that place.  It is still mostly a residential community. Restraunts and shopping in Toledo.